Comments on: Missing link in Flex architecture http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/2006/12/17/missing-link-in-flex-architecture A blog about our experience with Adobe Flex Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:15:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Yakov http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/2006/12/17/missing-link-in-flex-architecture/comment-page-1#comment-1054 Yakov Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:31:00 +0000 http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/?p=137#comment-1054 Last year I've attended a training class on a new J2EE-based software that targeted specific business need of maintaing a trustworthy information about customers of large enterprises. I was well versed in all supported software technologies (JMS, EJB, Servlets), but the class was structured around configuring all these pieces to work together. When I asked the instructor to tell us about best practices of architecting such systems in the real world, he just said "Welcome to Joe's imaginary enterprise, and let's go through my sample application" (his name was Joe). This was a clear indication that the software is new, and the vendor just does not have enough real-world implentations to share with us. RIA is also very new, and as the number of implementations will increase, we'll be gaining such experience and share with each other. Best practices books are needed badly, that's for sure. But Adobe evangelists or R&D team can't write if for you just yet. People in the trenches should start blogging about it just like Anatole did, and eventually some brave person(s) will write a book on the subject. Last year I’ve attended a training class on a new J2EE-based software that targeted specific business need of maintaing a trustworthy information about customers of large enterprises. I was well versed in all supported software technologies (JMS, EJB, Servlets), but the class was structured around configuring all these pieces to work together. When I asked the instructor to tell us about best practices of architecting such systems in the real world, he just said “Welcome to Joe’s imaginary enterprise, and let’s go through my sample application” (his name was Joe). This was a clear indication that the software is new, and the vendor just does not have enough real-world implentations to share with us.
RIA is also very new, and as the number of implementations will increase, we’ll be gaining such experience and share with each other.
Best practices books are needed badly, that’s for sure. But Adobe evangelists or R&D team can’t write if for you just yet. People in the trenches should start blogging about it just like Anatole did, and eventually some brave person(s) will write a book on the subject.

]]> By: judah http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/2006/12/17/missing-link-in-flex-architecture/comment-page-1#comment-1049 judah Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:20:51 +0000 http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/?p=137#comment-1049 Well said. There is a lot of consideration in the design of a RIA that is more than just athestics. If a well thought out design / ui is in place moral, productivity and many other benefits occur. The time saved by not using animation or good ui is not a saving. It is saying, "the experience of the user is not important". A telemarketing company I applied to once had very dirty call center environment. During training many of us noted that we did not feel valued. Not long after many of us quit because it was affecting our moral. I would not have noticed this subtle reality as well except for the fact that I was in an extreme case and the affects applied very rapidly. The same with UI. Value passes through the experience. @Owen - MM seemed to do this twice now. Horde the resources once the tool is made. At least that is the way it feels. They really need to come to bat and show more best practices application. Well said. There is a lot of consideration in the design of a RIA that is more than just athestics. If a well thought out design / ui is in place moral, productivity and many other benefits occur. The time saved by not using animation or good ui is not a saving. It is saying, “the experience of the user is not important”. A telemarketing company I applied to once had very dirty call center environment. During training many of us noted that we did not feel valued. Not long after many of us quit because it was affecting our moral. I would not have noticed this subtle reality as well except for the fact that I was in an extreme case and the affects applied very rapidly. The same with UI. Value passes through the experience.

@Owen – MM seemed to do this twice now. Horde the resources once the tool is made. At least that is the way it feels. They really need to come to bat and show more best practices application.

]]> By: Owen van Dijk http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/2006/12/17/missing-link-in-flex-architecture/comment-page-1#comment-1045 Owen van Dijk Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:29:56 +0000 http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/?p=137#comment-1045 Great post. It's odd that the old MM had internal teams working on prototypes and demo's for and with corporate clients to show the potential of RIA's but that experience and knowledge was never materialized, collected and publicized in an official way. Some of that work _is_ being shown to potential clients through sales engineers and evangelists and some of those apps and breezos are available if you have the right contacts within Adobe. That's indeed an opportunity that has to be addressed by Adobe and it's something 'traditional' platforms do have ( UI guidelines / Best Practices / Demo apps ) through companies like Microsoft, Apple and Sun. So who at Adobe is willing to take that chance? :) Great post. It’s odd that the old MM had internal teams working on prototypes and demo’s for and with corporate clients to show the potential of RIA’s but that experience and knowledge was never materialized, collected and publicized in an official way. Some of that work _is_ being shown to potential clients through sales engineers and evangelists and some of those apps and breezos are available if you have the right contacts within Adobe.

That’s indeed an opportunity that has to be addressed by Adobe and it’s something ‘traditional’ platforms do have ( UI guidelines / Best Practices / Demo apps ) through companies like Microsoft, Apple and Sun. So who at Adobe is willing to take that chance? :)

]]> By: Scott Barnes http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/2006/12/17/missing-link-in-flex-architecture/comment-page-1#comment-1043 Scott Barnes Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:01:20 +0000 http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/?p=137#comment-1043 All I can say to that is... well posted :) All I can say to that is… well posted :)

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